IF SPORT ART FAKERS DO NOT TREAD ...

I just noticed something else. Tiny pic downsized my Kate wip. It's almost the same size as Eileen's now, and I said in the post it was twice the size of her wip. Not off to a good start.

When I follow the link it's still full size. You just have to click on it to enlarge it. Your computer will automatically downsize it so the whole thing fits on the screen. If you hover over it with the mouse you'll notice it shows a "+" sign. Just click anywhere on the picture and it will maximize.

The expanded view is still only slightly larger than Eileen's
http://i37.tinypic.com/2v30djp.jpg

I wanted it to be this size
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2636/f ... tecopy.jpg

I was trying to avoid using the imageshack link since all of my drawings are in the same account, but it looks like I'll have to.

Is this 16 year old just immensely talented?
http://stanbos.deviantart.com/

Is this 16 year old just immensely talented?
http://stanbos.deviantart.com/

My first thought when I saw the gallery was that they look too good to be real. But I looked at half a dozen of his drawings at full size, and they all look like drawings to me. You can see pencil strokes throughout the drawings that none of the fakes so far have been able to reproduce. Also, no fake canvas texture.

I was able to get the second avatar to upload with no problem.
I also left that Crystal woman a link to the Kate wip, She'll probably report us again.

I also left that Crystal woman a link to the Kate wip, She'll probably report us again.

This is war. Let her bring it on.

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I also stumbled upon a thief. They faved one of my pieces, and left a message. What did I do? Turned her in to the artist.
http://Muthoni1991.deviantart.com/art/P ... -130701914

I also stumbled upon a thief. They faved one of my pieces, and left a message. What did I do? Turned her in to the artist.
http://Muthoni1991.deviantart.com/art/P ... -130701914

Hahaha..those fakers/thieves will be afraid to fave your works again.

I responded to the message of one of Eileen's defender and here's what she has to say.
~straycat27
"there are troublemakers who try to get attention by blaming others of faking. And then there are people who try to point out those who really do fake."
How do you know the group isn't a troublemaker?

"I don't know what's true or right or whatever, but I know that paintings like the ones shown there are possible."
Not because it's possible means it's real.

=Raishuu
I do think this group was a troublemaker. I wrote a pretty long reply to one of their journals giving more reasons why the works are real paintings/drawings than they had reasons that they're fake. What bugs me is that they attacked other users based on ... well nothing, when it comes down to it. They had ideas and assumptions but they didn't have proof in any kind. Of course just because it is poissble to paint like that doesn't mean that everyone does it. But this could also be used against them: just because it is possible to fake WIPs doesn't mean that everyone does it
From the evidence I have seen on their page and on =eileenirmas page I am sure that her work is real.

Those are exactly the kind of person we will never convince. That user thinks they showed "more evidence" that the work wasn't faked than we showed. HUH?!? Did any of you guys see where anybody posted MORE evidence than we did? Did I miss somebody recreating the work by hand? Did I miss convincing WIP's showing it could be done by hand? Did I miss an in-depth explanation of how you can get 100% accuracy on flyaway hairs, shading, minute details, and drawing on canvas texture? The only "evidence" the faker-defenders have presented is claims that aren't backed up by any evidence at all. It is IMPOSSIBLE to debate people like this and convince them of anything. They've made up their mind, it's closed, and anything short of eileenirma openly coming out and saying it's all faked (which, judging by her reaction, she will never do) will convince them. Even if eileenirma did that, her defenders might still say the only reason she did it is because we pressured her into making a false confession. They'll do anything to rationalize it.

You want a war - here's your challenge :

http://stevezombie.deviantart.com/

Crystal-LJ is a nitwit and a mental midget. I see someone from the Group already commented on this deviation but I'll post the link anyway because before I found it by chance, I didn't know it existed. I also posted a reply to her reply to the group. It was fun.

http://crystal-lj.deviantart.com/art/MY ... -142295189

Update: Now I'm blocked on her page and she used some choice language on me! Hahaha oh, isn't this fun. I love it.

New update: Now she's hidden all the comments from the group, and me, and her responses. This is great.

And again: Crystal-LJ's friend that Brendan pointed out left a nice little message for us. If anyone wants to hide it they can, but I'd prefer to leave it up, just to show how insanely stupid the people who doubt us are.

Crystal-LJ is a nitwit and a mental midget. I see someone from the Group already commented on this deviation but I'll post the link anyway because before I found it by chance, I didn't know it existed. I also posted a reply to her reply to the group. It was fun.

http://crystal-lj.deviantart.com/art/MY ... -142295189

Update: Now I'm blocked on her page and she used some choice language on me! Hahaha oh, isn't this fun. I love it.

New update: Now she's hidden all the comments from the group, and me, and her responses. This is great.

And again: Crystal-LJ's friend that Brendan pointed out left a nice little message for us. If anyone wants to hide it they can, but I'd prefer to leave it up, just to show how insanely stupid the people who doubt us are.

I visited Crystal's page earlier and noticed she'd just written a journal about the group and how bad we are etc, etc,..........so I commented on it and in a very civil way, pointed out why the group should be taken seriously and how any evidence that is shown is carefully compiled and researched first BEFORE we post anything. I also explained that the people in the group are highly talented artists in their own right in both traditional and digital drawing. I made her aware that it's not a case of 'thinking' things are faked but rather 'knowing' things are faked due to the research that is done and also knowing what to look for in the first place.

Anyway, since I commented on her journal she has deleted it and come up with a really vague explanation as to why she deleted it but it is my opinion that some of what I said has maybe been accepted by her although I can't be sure.

I added her to my 'watch' list she has said "thanks" for but I have since explained that it's just my way of keeping tabs on some people and not always to be confused with me liking or respecting them for their work or opinions.

Her journal is still there, I can't find it from her main page though.
http://crystal-lj.deviantart.com/art/MY ... -142295189
She has hidden a bunch of comments. Even though I wouldn't wasted my time leaving any further comments.
She left a comment on the new Erik page. It looks like a strange mixture of Spanish and Italian.
I also noticed one of her watchers is Eileen.

So does anyone else think that we've done enough?
A lot if DA people are aware now that Eileen was deceiving them, and the ones that don't believe us will probably never be convinced by any amount of evidence.
I did see where one person say so what if they're faking their work, it gives other people something to strive for. My argument against that is in Eileen's case she won
first prize in the "draw Kate Beckinsale" contest. She unjustly took the prize that someone else donated.

Her journal is still there, I can't find it from her main page though.
http://crystal-lj.deviantart.com/art/MY ... -142295189
She has hidden a bunch of comments. Even though I wouldn't wasted my time leaving any further comments.

That link doesn't link to the journal entry that she made earlier today which is now deleted but yeah I think we've done enough with regards to people like her but I'm definitely still up for gathering up info and evidence against other fakers, but maybe it needs to be done a little more subtly rather than specific naming and shaming.

Faving the works of fakers is a good way and also posting some of the 'fakes' that Tom recreated would be good although certain things would need changing so it isn't too obvious who they are aimed at because it seems that DA doesn't like that sort of thing, which sucks.

She left a comment on the new Erik page. It looks like a strange mixture of Spanish and Italian.

Plugged into the web translator (spanish) :
Looks to the penis in your DeviantART!

BUT PENIS!

PRETTY N!

You are the cheese!

Cheese with penis is very well!

ENEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

I think interacting with this person drops the integrity of the group down a notch or two.

On a related note - the way some some people try to be "cool" (not really the term I want to use - too old !) or try to portray themselves as some sort of free thinking/pushing the envelope of what is socially acceptable/internet hero just cracks me up.
Get a job already ..