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Post Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:06 pm

we need to get our works ou there!!

Art dealers in Holland and other parts of the country have more and more troubles getting interesting new paintings and other objects for there collections. One collector sais" Prime art is getting scarce" who attended a art and antiek acction in Maastricht.

Not only does the amount of buyers is growing harder then the amount of sellers, but the prices in auctionhouses are getting higher and higher.

Directeur Michael Findlay Of the New Yorkse galerie Aquavella: "A few years ago is was much more simpler to get quality pieces of art, that the prices are higher does not mean that people are willing to sell there collection"
The international arttrade is alway's looking for new "marketfresh" works.Judith Bouwknegt sais" Unknown pieces, everyone wants to suprice the market!" She works for the Amsterdam art trader Frans Jacobs.
Art trader Salomon Lilian, how is specialised in the "old masters" finds his treasurs in France. The top piece called " the look of Haarlem " ( het Gezicht van Haarlem) from Gerrit Berckheyde, sold for 1 million euro's and comes from a private collector.
Wendela Bergemeister sais" That what is good in art will be expensife in a art auction."

According to Artgallery Albricht the scarseness is getting noticable now.
"the 17e century is gone, in the aspect that all the art is already sold and in collections. Now the time has come for the 19e century. But we hace noticed that that also is getting harder.The only thing we can do is talk to friends and network to get more interasting artworks.The art venture Tefaf has a midevil form of trading, what means that what buyers see here, they will go and look for it at home. They do not want to get it here anymore. They hope people will come to them,we have a large database of people looking for art!

Art dealer Frans Jacobs does not get his art from auctions anymore.
Just before Tefaf, a new Karel Appel get's on the market from a private collection, wich he was able to buy.

"The demand is very big" Mickal Findlay said, while he presents a new nude from Lucian Freud to the people of Tefaf. Starting price: 15 million euro's.There is a new generation of buyers out there, that are 40 to 60 years old and they are buyers not sellers! They have nothing to bring to the artworld but do have the money to buy.

Aquavella, third generation artdealers in New York, said that there succes and suprices come from a large network.
"What we sold 20years ago is getting sols through us once more"We have a very nice and sweet Magritte for sale now, that has not been on the market for many years!

Second generation Albricht, can offer you a drawing by Van Gogh, he bought it 40 years ago and has been loanded to the Van Gogh museam for many years now.


How long will it take to get them to see that new art is and the new artists will be the masterpieces and masters of tomorrow? There is alot of talent out there that will never get the reconistion that they deserve because the dealers are stuffy old men! ( and woman)
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Post Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:48 am

I have come to the conclusion that the way to deal with this matter of "who will show my or your art".
My solution is to have your own residence, you r own house, your own property and your own show place.
Then, I can decide what to show or not to show.
All other solutions are compromises, except and unless someone adorse your work so much that they outright give you show space, with NO strings attached.
Meanwhile, we have the internet?!
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Post Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:45 pm

The problem with the internet is that a lot of stuff get's stolen real fast! I agree that it is hard to gt you work shown.
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Post Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:47 am

To some extent banks and hotel lounges and libraries and restaurants are available to show certain art works. I thinka nother wasy is to make a brochure of your stuff and pas it around , stuff it into mail boxes, mass mail'em - something. I have never done this becuase I don't want more calls and offers than I can manage. I am beginning to appreciate the work of a business manager- not at I have business, but that I would if I ACTED!
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Post Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:35 am

For a small 90% of your income from sold works I will repersent you! hahaha You can be the next best thing Baby! SHOW ME THE MONEY!! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!
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Post Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:16 am

Ya- that did pass throughmy mind- why,it's every bit as insulting as giving 40% to an art galery/dealer.
Like I said- the cure is to have your own place, and show there. Hell, ya can even play your own favourite music there, serve coffee and donuts, and paint in the corner, while people snivvel at your "art"- is that "art"?
Heaven is having your own studio. Seventh Heaven is having your own Gallery.

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