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Drawing Forum and Art Community • View topic - You've got to be kidding me
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:04 pm
by Atilla

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:21 pm
by Phan-Tom
One of the things that bothered me about this thief was his insistence that his work were drawings of drawings.
I don't think he fooled anyone, but he never admitted to it.
I actually put his claim to the test with Brian's Britney Spears last week, but never got around to posting it.

I used Photoshop's apply image function to compare the two images.
I had to enlarge the stolen piece to match the legitimate one, but luckily they were the exact same proportions, and cropped exactly the same place (what a surprise)

If you open the two images in Photoshop,
Brian's legitimate post


What Alex claimed was his drawing of Brian's drawing.


make sure one of the images is selected, and use the apply image function as I have it shown here. It can be found under the image drop down menu.


Choose the image that is not selected in the source box. Make sure blending is set to Normal
and opacity is 100%
Click the check mark on and off(beneath the cancel button)
The only difference you should see is one is slightly blurrier than the other due to it's being enlarged.
Which means There is no chance that Alex drew the image like he claimed, but as I said..I think everyone already knew that.

There are other ways you can do this, like putting the two images in the same file, on different layers.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:50 am
by Dezkenob1
I did a similar thing to this a while back for someone else but I put the 2 images in the same file but on different layers. Then I used Image Ready and created an animation of the 2 pictures fading in and out and switching between themselves.

Image



Although the 2 images had a slightly different contrast and the thief had erased Zindy's signature and put his own and a couple of other things that he'd changed to try to cover his tracks, they were identical and in no way were they done by 2 seperate people. People like this seem to forget that even if they do change something minor, on pictures like this several things can give it away that it's stolen. Things such as how things are shaded, how the facial features are positioned etc. They forget that even when using a grid, some things just will not be 100% identical to whatever it is that's being copied. Even the original artist of a drawing wouldn't be able to recreate an exact copy of their own work.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:24 am
by Brendan
Perhaps this whole thieving business challenges the validity of "photo-realistic" drawing as an art form.
I mean if you have to use a computer program to prove that it was "stolen" - it doesn't say much for the originality of the drawing.
Moreover, the original-original artist (the photographer), could use the same technique and claim theft of his/her work.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:17 pm
by Phan-Tom

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:03 pm
by Phan-Tom
Here's the photo that Zindy used for reference.
Image

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:08 pm
by Dezkenob1

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:25 am
by Phan-Tom

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:30 pm
by Dezkenob1

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:33 pm
by Atilla
I was referred to this person yesterday, by a friend. This person is dedicated to art thief detection :D She has a list of deviations that are put up by thieves, and then beside them the links to the owners. The ones that say 404 file not found, that one has been taken care of. :)

http://wishmasteralchemist.deviantart.c ... /22465448/

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:21 pm
by Phan-Tom

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:31 pm
by Phan-Tom
Well it looks like we got that guy's page removed from Facebook.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:41 am
by Atilla

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:25 pm
by Phan-Tom

PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:18 pm
by Phan-Tom
I found that Barrie Crowcroft guy has Zindy's Amy Lee on his Myspace page too. I sent her a note, and she read it and mentioned it in her journal. Let's see what happens.
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=11073627

more of his so called work:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... mId=974349

Zindy also has someone else stealing another one of her pieces.
http://zindy.deviantart.com/